Transcripts
22 May 2009, 09:48:51
Nira: Hello?
Raja: Raja here
Raja: Huh?
Nira: Barkha Dutt
Raja: What does she say?
Nira: She says… that she has been following up the story with Prime Minister’s Office tonight. In fact, she was the one who told me that Sonia Gandhi went there. She says that he has no problem with you, but he has a problem with Baalu
Raja: …but it has to be discussed with Leader
Nira: yeah, yeah… he has to discuss with the Leader. He has to tell…
Raja: It will be discussed in the morning… why unnecessarily Congress… [indiscernible] tie-up is going out
Nira: No, but then the question is about Azhagiri, no?
Raja: Huh?
Nira: Azhagiri’s people are saying: why is Maran getting Cabinet when he is such a senior leader himself?
Raja: That is different, but all these things must be explored and disclosed
Nira: That’s right. That’s right. I told her to get Congress…
Raja: At least, one to one, let it be disclosed to Leader
Nira: One to one?
Raja: One to one. Somebody should give a message, at least in a sealed cover, that we are having serious problems to Baalu
Nira: From Congress, right?
R: Yes
N: Okay, I’ll tell her. She is talking to Ahmed Patel, so I will talk to him
Raja: Let him [sic] call at least over phone: Sir, this is problem… we are having high regard, we are having no problem with Raja, but problem is Baalu. Tell.
Nira: Then how will you resolve the other problem?
Raja: Other problems we will take care of slowly, because now Leader comes down
Nira: Uh huh.
R: Don’t worry
N: Now Leader comes down to three, no?
Raja: Comes down for [sic] three…
Nira: Yeah
Raja: Even you are saying that Maran is not fit for infrastructure… he is having controversy… alright, let him be accommodated in the existing ministry… at least we will suggest
Nira: Maran?
Raja: Hmm… you suggest, you send a message
Nira: Uh, huh
Raja: Okay
Nira: Okay
NIRA calling RAJA. Put on hold
RAJA: Tell me, Nira
NIRA: The thing is that the Congress has been totally confused as to who they need to speak to.
RAJA: Huh?
NIRA: Who they need to speak to in the DMK
RAJA: Ah… somebody should fly to Leader
NIRA: No, no… That is why, I am now… they’re going to speak to Kani in a little while, and then Kani is going to take them to Leader directly, and let Kani…
RAJA: That is good, that is good.
NIRA: Yeah? I have done… just told them that, because they’re completely confused who to talk to. Yeah?
RAJA: Let them talk to Kani
NIRA: Yeah, but Kani should also be sensible enough to say that she does not want anything for herself. No? I have told her that…
RAJA: Hmm
NIRA: …but you also make sure.
RAJA: No problem
NIRA: I told them. I told them that whatever…
RAJA: See, tell Kani: let her call Leader, (tell him) this is the problem, shall I bring the people?
NIRA: Yeah, because what they’re saying is that they will not give infrastructure to Baalu and Maran. They should say that to Leader directly, no?
RAJA: No problem. Look See… let them go along with Kani, and let them tell that we are having problem with these fellows
RAJA: That’s right. That’s what they have to do… they were confused… what happened is: for the UPA meeting, Maran went along… so they think Maran is the interlocutor, he is the person who’s going to talk, so there is this…
RAJA: Not at all. He came for assistance, that’s all
NIRA: No. I know, but you see this is a wrong message that has gone out, and they don’t know
May 23, 2009, 14:29:41
NIRA: Raja how are you?
RAJA: Haan, What she is telling, Kani is telling?
NIRA: She’s telling that she’s okay about it. She has no problem…
RAJA: Hmm
NIRA: …but the only thing is that somebody has to go talk to Azhagiri, which you have to do.
RAJA: Hmm
NIRA: And tell him how Maranhas gone and told…
RAJA: Haan, I already spoke with him, I already spoke with him…
NIRA: You told him what he has told the Congress leaders in Delhi?
RAJA: I know. So who planted in the minds of the Congress saying that Azhagiri doesn’t know English… I know…
NIRA: No, no, no, no…. Not only that. Not only that. That he and Stalin tomorrow will be the only ones left to run the party because the old man is senile and he is not going to be around any longer, and therefore Congress will be happy doing business with him because it will be him… him eventually, and he controls Stalin.
RAJA: Hmm…
NIRA: This is what he has said.
RAJA: Oh, ho, ho, ho!
NIRA: And that Azhagiri is criminal…
RAJA: Hmm…
NIRA: And he has not even studied more than 5th standard.
RAJA: Oh…
NIRA: That’s the exact thing that he has told.
RAJA: Okay, okay
NIRA: You go and tell him this, no?
RAJA: No I shared with Azhagiri…Azhagiri in turn went to speak with Leader.
NIRA: No, but he has also said this… that in Delhi, I am the only one that you have to deal with eventually because, any case, Stalin will remain in the State
RAJA: I know, see, I know what type of propaganda he will manage…
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NIRA: Raja how are you?
RAJA: Haan, What she is telling, Kani is telling?
NIRA: She’s telling that she’s okay about it. She has no problem…
RAJA: Hmm
NIRA: …but the only thing is that somebody has to go talk to Azhagiri, which you have to do.
RAJA: Hmm
NIRA: And tell him how Maranhas gone and told…
RAJA: Haan, I already spoke with him, I already spoke with him…
NIRA: You told him what he has told the Congress leaders in Delhi?
RAJA: I know. So who planted in the minds of the Congress saying that Azhagiri doesn’t know English… I know…
RAJA: Hmm…
NIRA: This is what he has said.
RAJA: Oh, ho, ho, ho!
NIRA: And that Azhagiri is criminal…
RAJA: Hmm…
NIRA: And he has not even studied more than 5th standard.
RAJA: Oh…
NIRA: That’s the exact thing that he has told.
RAJA: Okay, okay
NIRA: You go and tell him this, no?
RAJA: No I shared with Azhagiri…Azhagiri in turn went to speak with Leader.
NIRA: No, but he has also said this… that in Delhi, I am the only one that you have to deal with eventually because, any case, Stalin will remain in the State
RAJA: I know, see, I know what type of propaganda he will manage…
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